El Hierro and the Physics of magma chambers

Image from Nature GeoScience. From Phillip A. Allens article Geodynamics: Surface impact of mantle processes.

Part 1

Not many people think about what is great with physics. People are normally more occupied with buying Prada hand-bags to carry their rat-sized yapp-dogs than physics. The great thing with physics is that the laws of nature are universal. And with that I mean that they can be transferred easily from the school books into real life, and from one part of science into another.

I am as most of you know not a volcanologist or a geologist, but I am a physicist. So every time I try to understand a volcano I do it from how it is behaving from the point of perspective of the laws of nature.

This time I would like to write about a few things regarding how magma chambers must be formed according to physics. I will mainly not talk about magma chambers because they are fairly hard to visualize since nobody has seen one in real life as it is forming. But most of us have for instance blown up a balloon.

In this case we will be talking about magma chambers that come from hotspot volcanism; the process will be slightly different in a subduction volcano. But first we need some background, this post will be about precisely that background.

Hotspots, weightlessness and Blobs

Let us start with what is required for a magma chamber to even start forming. And as a physicist I am always talking about basic forces. And there is only one basic force, and that is energy. There are of course many types of energy, and in this case we are talking about energy as mechanical pressure and heat.

Thankfully for the poor fledgling magma chamber there is one thing that causes both pressure and heat, and that is your basic magma. So, let us drop up a ball of nice hot juicy magma from the hotspot under El Hierro.

It is not entirely clear how magma travels upwards via a hotspot, but we know there are two types of hotspots. First we have the deep Icelandic type that brings up material from the depth, this magma is hot and arrives at high (relatively) speed and with great force. It brings with it an assortment of rare and heavy metals from deep down at the boundary between the core and the mantle. The other type is a colder and less deep hotspot. The magma here is either brought up from within the mantle, or created as the hotspot heats up material close to the MOHO boundary either through heat or pressure, perhaps even a mixture between them. This type creates magma that is low in precious metals, and gives a low Uranium-Thorium (UrTh) count which in turn is a dead giveaway that it comes from a shallow source. The Canarian hotspot seems to end up somewhere in the middle of these two types, it is definitely not melting crust as a part of the magma creation, the almost pure basic basalt tells us that, on the other hand it is not from the core/mantle boundary since the UrTh count is wrong for that option. Let it suffice to say that the Canarian hotspot is a bastard mongrel of a hotspot.

So, where does now the pressure to drive any hotspot come from? Well, once again the answer is not simple. We have at least two sources. The first is heat; the Earth is producing loads of juicy heat due to at least 3 different processes. The first one is UrTh and other atomic nuclear processes. Yepp, we live on an atomic reactor. The second one a form of pressure called overburden pressure. That is the combined weight of the planet pushing downwards, this creates compression heat. The third is through the dear old gravity slowly massaging the planet, this is by far the smallest of powers creating the heat. Here I have simplified a bit, there are more forces at play than this.

Image of nested magma.

So, how come then that magma travels upwards? The answer might surprise you a lot. If you are getting a headache from this it is normal. Let us imagine that you where hanging at the exact mid-spot of the planet. The pressure would be phenomenal from the overburden pressure; still you would notice something odd. For the first time in your life you would be completely weightless. This would be due to the entire planets gravitational pull would be affecting your entire body in every direction at the same time, effectively cancelling out any gravitational effect.

What does this now have to do with magma? Well, you have magma under tremendous pressure that does not weigh a lot. A cubic decimeter of magma at the mantle/core boundary is considerably more lightweight than the same volume of water. And at the same time it is squeezed by tremendous pressure.  Here we enter a nice little simple physics, when you squeeze a fluid it will try to run away, in this case it can’t go down, it is fairly buoyant and will try to float. Now we just need one small thing, a conduit. Enter the heat.

Energy will always go from a high state to a lower state; this is the nutty little physics law that also gives that order will always go towards disorder, in other words, entropy and enthalpy. So, the core will try to lose heat, and the heat will always be able to escape, and once a convective current of heat has started to run upwards it will jolly well keep on going. When magma finds a stream of heat going upwards it will follow that stream because the fluid will follow the point of least resistance. And that is why a mantle plume and a hotspot is the same thing (simple physics). The mantle plume cannot exist without a hotspot, and the hotspot will sooner or later create the mantle plume.

Now our blob of magma is finally moving upwards towards El Hierro, the trip started a long time ago, it takes a while to go through all that semi-permeable heated pipe that runs up through the mantle. One day, let us say on the 24th of June 2012 our blob of magma arrives at the bottom of the crust under El Hierro.

The speed with which it arrives is very slow even compared to a human walking, but the weight is enormous, the same goes for the amount of heat energy and the buoyancy pressure. Let us just say that it is like a comet sized blow-torch hitting the almost melted MOHO boundary. It will cut through the first layers in a rather short time. As it goes on up through the bottom of the crust it decelerates fairly quickly, and that is the point where all the fun starts, the formation of the magma chamber.

Until the next time!

CARL

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632 thoughts on “El Hierro and the Physics of magma chambers

  1. Good afternoon ladys and gentlemen…
    I miss you…
    I hope you all were fine!!!

    My feeling watching the last hours spectrogram with a lot of yellow colour is it was some degassing… I´m not sure one hundred per cent but it is my feelig…

    What would be the meaning if it was true that spectrogram is showing degassing?

    My best wishes to you all… I´m fine, superfine wearing my Jean Paul Gaultier parfum and Ï have lost 10 kg, I return to my athletic body… summer operation… hahahaha

  2. Hahahahah volcano-sexual… And proud to be… hahah

    Nice to meet you again…

    The situation in my country is going very bad…
    These are the miners yesterday night taking the streets of Madrid after walking from Asturias and Leon (northern Spain)… Perhaps the last oportunity for a reovlution which it wont take place…

    Bad times for this country and probably our minds here will be busy in other kind of seismic, volcanic, and seismic events…

    • Sorry to hear that. Europe seems to be in such a mess and people here in Germany are pretty cushioned from it, despite all the press. I hope this doesn’t result in a horrible nationalistic backlash. That would be cruelly ironic.

    • Hola Carlos!

      Good to hear from you!

      @Bruce:
      I agree and hope that it will not cause other problems.

      • Hola CarlosB, que alegria verte aqui de nuevo….te hemos hechado de menos..un abrazo fuerte xx
        Hi Carols, how happy we are to see you here again…we have missed you.. ..Big hug xx

  3. Wednesday
    11.07.2012 08:58:18 64.643 -20.551 4.6 km 3.0 99.0 16.1 km SSW of Eiríksjökull

  4. People haven´t reported yet, but there was an interesting 3.0 earthquake in Langjokull.

    Actually there has been a swarm ongoing there since yesterday, and now the largest earthquake reached 3.0.

    This is probably tectonic-related as the earthquakes do not only occur within the Prestahnukur central volcano (near Eiríksjökull), but also to the south in the shield volcano Skaldbreið.

    I think this is tectonic, major earthquakes there happen once in a while, but this Langjokull region is also volcanic and active, with its last volcanic activity around 1000 years ago. It often produces large volumes of lava, almost nearing the levels of Laki. The Skaldbreið shield volcano was an eruption some 8000 years ago that nearly reached the cubic kms of Theistreyjarbunga but lasting several decades.

    • Interestingly, and at the same time there is an ongoing swarm at Ingolfsfjall, already for several days. Again, this here is even more tectonic. Volcanic activity is dead at this mountain, but the region is still active as the last Grimsnes eruptions 5000 years ago. This swarm is probably adjustements after the major 6.5 earthquake there in 2000. If this activity stays at both points of the southwest region, it might lead to a more important earthquake in between (Thingvellir or Hengill), in a region long “due” for a major one. Again, I repeat, this is just tectonics (not volcanic related).

      • Ingólfsfjall 6,5 quake was in year 2008. Others (two) were further east in June 2000.

    • I am not so certain that this is entirely tectonic.
      Yes, it is in a tectonic region, and there is no harmonic tremor. But…
      I still think this in some way have a volcanic component to it.
      Here are the reasons:
      1. There was an never heard of slow swarm of earthquakes at Skjaldbreidur at what is believed to be the depth of an old conduit. This swarm is still slowly and minisculy continuing.
      2. The quakes in Langjökull is around where there is a suspected old chamber.
      3. There was a change in the Hveravellir SIL a week ago, at the same time as the slow quake-swarm started in the very distant Skjaldbreidur.
      4. Geysir, there has been a few asymptomatic earthquakes there, and the rate of geysering in the geysers at geysir has increased during the last month.

      http://hraun.vedur.is/ja/oroi/hve.gif

  5. Some questions on El Hierro.
    Why do you think is it so calm the last few days and why does the depths of the quakes not change?
    Is there a continous fresh supply of magma and as soon as the pressure gets high enough there are quakes?
    Or are there sporadic pushes which cause the quakes? Or both?
    And one last question. The uplift right now is higher then 2011, so there should be considerably more magma. Maybe the magma is not at the same place as in 2011, but the difference can not be too big.
    So why did it find no way up?
    Is it only a question of time, which the magma needs to ‘melt’ through some hard layers?
    Or is it very likely that there will not be an erruption because the magma started to build a magma chamber which has do grow for years, maybe hundrets or thousands?

    • My 2c:

      1. Past eruptive products of El Hierro indicate a magma repose time (the time the new magma spends in the crust) of weeks to months. Here’s Stroncik et al on the length of magma residence in the crust: “… we obtain maximum time intervals of 2–588 days”.

      2. I think it is safe to assume that each burst of heightened seismic activity like we saw last year and again this year indicates the arrival of new magma from deep in the mantle (see Carl’s wonderful description above)

      3. In most eruptions only a fraction of the magma will ever be erupted, if at all. I think it is safe to assume this will also be the case here.

      4. An eruption of magma is basically a question of the pressure acting on the magma and the resistance of the rock above it. If the pressure is high enough for the magma to break open a path, we will get an eruption. If not, then there won’t be an eruption.

      5. Yes, you are right, the greater amount of seismic activity is a pretty good indication that more magma is involved this year compared to last year and I think this is corroborated by the GPS readings.

      6. There probably is more pressure (due to greater volumes) and more deformation (more cracks) so the chances should be higher for an eruption than last year, but volcanoes are fickle beasts and are hard to call at the best of times.

      Conclusion: I think there is a high chance of an eruption from this batch of magma within the next 20 months.
      but as I said, just my 2c. It ain’t really worth much. It is quite possible that there is no eruption and this batch of magma will slowly cool down in the crust.

      Oh and while we are at it. The depth of the magma chamber (presuming there is one where all the earthquakes are) pretty well rules out the chance of a caldera forming as any caldera that did form would be a drainage caldera as opposed to an explosive caldera (because of the type of magma) and there is simply too much intervening country rock for a sag depression to form, i.e. the depth to width ratio is too high.

      • Good summary! If your number three is correct (“3. In most eruptions only a fraction of the magma will ever be erupted, if at all.”), then everything above will be raised like a welt, boil or subcutaneous pimple. If so, this should be evident by the shape of the ocean floor.

      • …”volcanoes are fickle beasts” – LOL – no wonder most of them are in the feminine…
        Sorry gals, couldn’t avoid it!
        Just to put it into a context: “Frailty, thy name is woman!” (W.S.)
        “Frailty, thy name is … volcano!” (Bruce Stout)
        I’m always learning something new here. :)

      • Good summary.
        Nothing much to add really.

        @Henrik:
        Normally volcanoes slowly are uplifted like this. In El Hierros case it probably reaches into a couple of hundred meters. Of old lavas that has been pushed in, lifted the land, sometimes erupting, sometimes not. But at every infusion it will lift the land a little bit.
        El Hierro probably resembles a Devil’s cake with hundreds of stacked layers.

        • No sign of layering in Gorbatikov microseismic study – but plenty of vertical structure.

    • From VolcanoDiscovery:

      “Cumbal volcano is elongated in a NE-SW direction and composed primarily of andesitic-dacitic lava flows”

      When you get towards dacitic, the lava tends to be so viscous it hardly moves. This results in very thick lava flows and the feature you point out looks very much like one.

    • Columbia?
      Strange name for a volcano in British Columbia.
      Or are we talking about the country named Colombia?

      The odd shapes are lava extrusion domes, or more to the point lava plugs. If this one goes it would be fairly explosive andesitic eruption intermingled with resurgent domes. Heavy on pyroclastic flows.

      • Well, on the off chance that it does blow, should be interesting to watch. Doubt anything will happen however. One interesting question, is what causes dacitic / rhyolitic volcanoes to behave more like shield volcanoes and simply emit lava flows? I know there are a few very large dacitic lava flows in the chilean andes.

        The one thing I was mostly curious with that pointy summit, is where did the lava come from? Did it just well up from the middle of the spire and extrude outwards, or did it originally come from the main Lava Dome? I could be wrong, but even if Dacitic lava were to create a flow, it would still have characteristics of a “flow” instead of just coming out in a blocky spire.

        Would that imply that it’s a remnant of perhaps a taller summit prior to an old eruption? This naturally whereas the rest of the mountain has seen collapse / slides / destruction?

      • The amount of water if I have understood it correctly. If there is a lot of water available in the ground water table, then it will become an explosive eruption, if there is less water you get lava flows. And then some start explosively, dry up the ground water table, and then turn into lava flowish volcanoes.
        But, I am not the world leading authority on this…

  6. Latest Goverment Statement.

    ,The active magmatic process in El Hierro continues without risk for the population11-07-2012… 16: 26 – Ministry of economy, finance and securityThe seismicity is located at some 20 kilometers of depth mainly in the sea.The active magmatic process in El Hierro continues dice analyzed seismicity and deformation parameters without risk for the population. In this sense, the IGN has moved to the direction of the Civil Protection Plan by volcanic risk (PEVOLCA) that the level of seismicity is lower than the one registered in the last few days and reflected a stability of deformations, which remain in 8.5 centimeters in the horizontal component and 10 in the vertical.The depth of the earthquakes is still about 20 kilometers and these are located in a zone more dispersed, mostly at sea.

    None of the scientific groups studying the presence of gases, IGN, and INVOLCAN, in El Hierro has detected anomalies with respect to them. The presence of Helio3 is not harmful to health and reflects only the existence of the already known magmatic process.The PEVOLCA reminds that a constant monitoring of this process is making to act in each moment in its evolution. Seismicity and deformation energy data can be consulted in the website of IGN, http://www.ign.es.

    http://www.gobcan.es/noticias/index.jsp?module=1 & page = note. htm & id = 149925.

    ,

  7. They have just shown on the BBC Volcano live programme all earthquakes over 2.0 on the world map within the last 24hrs and guess what El Hierro was not even marked or mentioned ?

    • Why on earth would they show from 2M and up?
      Poor El Hierro, it does not even exist apparantly.

      • But why would they do this El Hierro had a 2.9 at 02:00 early this morning and has had many more over 2.0. This does not make any sense?

        • Most likely they picked the data from either USGS or EMSC-CSEM, and they do not show in the general listing earthquakes that are that small… In reality they showed only 3.5Ms and upwards I think. And for every place outside of Europe and the US it would have been 4.5Ms and upwards.

          • I thought they were showing only the quakes of 2 and above that were on the plate boundaries. That would makes sense as the canaries are not on any plate boundary.

    • It was 3 and up and they got their information from USGS. They were showing the co-relation of volcanoes with plate-tectonics and then went on to discuss the different types of earthquake (non-volcanic).

  8. They are in a magma chamber in Iceland between two tetonic plates at the moment its fascinating they say its bigger than St Pauls Catherdral.

    • They were in the sometimes here mentioned Þríhnúkargígur, a volcano which forms part of Brennisteinsfjöll volcanic system on Reykkjanes peninsula not far from Reykjavík.

          • Hi IngeB,,,how did they do with the pronounciation of “Brennisteinsjöll” – cos I would not have a clue!

          • Small correction here. No skiing really in Brennsteinsfjöll. Bláfjöll are entierly separate mountains, to the east, then Kóngsfell and Thríhnjúkagígar and Brennisteinsfjöll and Lönguhlíð to the west. I know thas as they were out my window´s for over 20 years, and are still out my window tonight! Hovever they are classed be part of Brennisteinsfjöll volcanic complex. And they were not exploring THE Magma Chamber (in my opinion, a media hype calling it “chamber”), its merely a huge magma channel (feeder tube) that emptied afterwards, but formed during last (several) eruption(s). *not expert*

  9. they have just mentioned El Hierro and have said nothing has been going on for the last two weeks everything has calmed down !!!

    • Talla did you hear that aswell.

      They said they were going to keep their eye on it though !

      • Yes, they did say that but I think they were also trying to calm people down by explaining how small it is and, although the nearest volcano to Britain, it is not exactly a threat to us or to tourists to the Canary Islands.

        • Well to me they witheld the info about all the 2.0 earthquakes and above and they were blantantly misleading everyone about what has actually happened over the last two weeks. Why did they not explain about whats been going on over the last two weeks .

          • They are trying to explain volcanoes to the general public not do an in-depth special on a small non-eruption. :-)

          • Yes he did say 2.0 and he seemed to be totally unaware of the reactivation since June 24. He also said that last year UK scientists warned of the pending eruption there….

          • “witheld the info”, “blantantly misleading everyone”.

            Change the record, Judith.

          • Why does it always have to be deliberate misinformation? How about inept researchers and producers, information fed to Kate Humble (not a vulcanologist) and Prof Ian Stewart wasn’t sufficiently boned up on it to give a good reply? How about ineptitude/bad research rather than some big conspiracy???? Surely Ockham’s Razor says that’s the most logical explanation???

          • TV people think in terms of London – distance is measured by how long it takes them to get from Heathrow to anywhere. So Canaries is the closest to them! :-)

          • Not to mention the volcanoes of the West Eifel Volcanic Field, a mere 150 miles or so from London as the crow flies.

    • Just caught up with the first three episodes of Volcano Live. I just think that the presenter was using out of date info (the BBC team has been out in Hawaii for a while). Hierro is not being shown as active because it is restless rather than active (unless Bob is quietly silenty up to something).

      Latest weekly report on GVP:

      “On 11 July Instituto Geográfico Nacional (IGN) reported that seismic activity and deformation at Hierro had decreased since the previous week. During 4-10 July there were 650 seismic events located, most of them offshore SW of El Hierro Island at 20 km depth. The maximum magnitude recorded was 3.8, which occurred on 10 July at 0504, and 77 earthquakes were M 2.7 or higher. The total number of located events had reached more than 2,200 since the anomalous activity began on 24 June. The deformation during this period had maximum values of about 1.5 cm in the horizontal component and 1.5 cm of vertical displacement.”

      Source: http://www.volcano.si.edu/reports/usgs/index.cfm

  10. I have been looki at this log too long.
    The explanation for iceland , its hotspot and the MAR was so poor I found it annoying.
    Some great stuff on the programs and some of the experts give real insight so I cant be too critical .

    • I’m really enjoying it – even if the explanations are simple, the pictures of eruptions are worth watching. I’ve looked at the website for the lava tube they visited, but seeing someone descend in to it was stunning! I’d love to go there! :-)

  11. Charley Hodge .

    They did blantantly withold info and they didnot disclose any info on all the 2.0 quakes that have recently happened .
    When I make things up you can criticise me but when I report things that have just actually happened make sure you get your facts right in the first place.

    • No, they didn’t ‘blatantly withhold ‘ information – you have no evidence for that, because that presupposes *you know what they were thinking*. Unless you are a mind reader, that can’t be so. They *might not have given all the information*, but that is entirely different from deliberately withholding it. Not giving it all, for whatever reason – ineptitude, poor research, whatever, does no presuppose it was deliberate. Try arguing that in a court of law and you would be laughed out.

      • could there not be a chance that the programme was recorded before June 24th? I don´t know becuase I can´t see it here…however I would like to say to Charlie Hodge, I I do think it is good to have a good and lively discussion and exchange points of view, but it should be done in a polite courteous manner….I think your comment above to Judith was a bit off….just trying to keep the peace and keep things nice….. :) .

        • No, it’s ‘Volcano Live’ and although there are pre-recorded sections, the bit where they discussed El Hieirro was live. They just f**cked up, that’s all. Nothing to see there, move on.

        • I don’t believe my comment to Judith was off. She was wildly accusing the BBC of things she had no proof of, and I called her up on it. What’s the problem with that?

          • I’m not sure I can see what was impolite in what I said. Please clarify and I can learn.

          • This blog has a reputation for extreme politeness – many of us don’t have English as a first language and and we come from many different backgrounds and some of us are experts and some beginers. Judith came here knowing nothing about volcanoes or geology and is doing her best to learn. Not everyone knows the haphazard way ‘expert’ television programmes are made and to someone obsessed with a particular volcano it may appear that knowledge is being withheld deliberately. Explaining carefully and politely is the way to get your message across. Hope this helps. :-)

            Comment shortened by volcanocafe2.

    • It’s all to do with intent, Judith. They didn’t give information. You don’t know *why* they didn’t give that information. Maybe they knew it and deliberately didn’t want to give it for whatever reason; maybe they didn’t know it because of poor research and so the omssission was unintentional. Which do you think is more likely? The BBC is in some great conspiracy with the Canary islands Tourist Board? Or some poor underpaid and overstressed BBC researcher who has not got any specialist knowledge of volcanology f**cked up/didn’t do a good enough job? I know what my money’s on. Like I said – Ockham’s Razor. The most obvious explanation is the most likely to be true.

      • Now I would like to say Charlie Hodge, that your argument has merit….and I am inclined to agree with you..Ockham´s Razor is a good phrase to use..(but I will admit that I had to Google it to find out what it meant)

        • Hi Debbie! I agree – conspiracy theorists have way too much imagination. The affairs of humans are usually quite mundane and no volcanologist can be expected to know everything. For starters they told us at the beginning that they’ve been setting the programme up for at least a week and they can’t be expected to stay glued to the IGN all day when they have a live volcano under their feet! :-)

        • Thanks Talla for seeing what I saw and I hope our fellow commenter Charlie will see it too…. I am here becuase I really enjoy the lively debates, crazy madness and very important information that this blog gives, but best of all is the friendly atmosphere that makes me not afraid to ask the most stupid questions or make the silliest of comments, because I know that I will never be ridiculed or insulted…that is why I felt I should mention Charlie´s comment, because above all, I want us all to learn, be entertained, have a laugh and generally get along….if we don´t want any of that, why are we here?

        • Since philosophy is the sub thread… here is one for you. It’s based on the mindset of one of the United State’s founding fathers… Benjamin Franklin.

          I paraphrase: ‘Always expect the worst. If it doesn’t happen, you are happy. If it does, well, at least you expected it.’

        • sorry Volcanocafe2, never intended to start a fight. thought I was averting one…I personally have no problem and think the rest of us don´t either…no need to involve Carl in this instance, it was just a minor issue that I think is sorted …

      • Charlie, I’m inclined to lean towards your argument. The programme is aimed at the general public and we are in a privileged position here where we can access information that the wider public will never access. The programme is limited on time and it could easily have been side-tracked into explaining what is going on at El Hierro. It was live, so I think both presenters acted professionally – it didn’t occur to me for a second that there was any attempt to deceive. I did think later that they could have planned a little more of this into the programme – but what do they show the audience ? There is absolutely nothing to see apart from a few charts and a lot of data and the likelihood of anything visible happening is reducing by the day. Etna for example, is closer and more active – Vesuvius comes tomorrow – a little more interesting let’s face it.

        I think at times we are ourselves in danger of over-dramatising events here and occasionally come close to mimicking other sensationalist blogs. I have always said this is an excellent blog but perhaps some posters could take a deep breath before rushing to act and advise on an event, unusual as it may appear. Crying wolf too often can only have one dangerous result.

        At the end of the day there has been a bit of excitement in the sea to the south. More recently, a lot of earthquakes that may be alarming to the local people but there are many places in the world where this is day-to-day life and they get used to it. The quakes are deep at 20 kilometers and the trend has been downward – take a drive for 20k and see how far away it is ! If there was a continuous trend upwards to less than 10k, then perhaps I would twitch in my chair and take a second look. At the moment it’s activity that a few years ago wouldn’t be on the radar because we wouldn’t have had access to the detailed information we do now.

        IGN seem to be much more professional now in releasing far more information than they have in the past– maybe we need to reflect this now and become more professional ourselves. My view about the BBC programme ? Excellent stuff for those that are wanting to learn from the beginning. Let’s hope they repeat and build on it in the future.

        • My view about the BBC programme ? Excellent stuff for those that are wanting to learn from the beginning. Let’s hope they repeat and build on it in the future.

          Good luck with that. My experience with all those “really good at first” shows is that they peter out pretty quickly… never quite becoming something worth revisiting at a later date. Mostly shlock entertainment to sell advertising space on.

          • Just a point here Lurking, BBC doesn’t do any advertising. All payed for by licence fee.

          • The UK has a very widespread quality on their media, in one is/was The Daily Fail, in the other corner you have BBC and a couple of very high work ethics newspapers. Yes of course they can also be wrong, but oftenmost they are correct.

            Regarding Volcano-live now that I have seen it.
            It is a splendid show if one keeps in mind for whom it is produced. BBC prides themselves with being educative, so here they are trying to educate those who do not know. For us it is rather dumbed down since we spend an inordinate amount of time reading advanced research papers and discussing their merrits visavi each other. Still and darn good show to look at even for me.

          • I do have to admit that their stuff is far superior to TLC and DSC… but really, that’s sort of an insult when you consider the quality of TLC and DSC.

  12. All right friends.

    Everyone has the right to speak. But peacefully.

    Do not insult or offend anyone with your words.

    Or if you accidentally do it, remember to apologize for that.

    Thank you.

  13. Good evening/ Afternoon everyone. Yayyyyyyyy! Good to see Carlos back.
    I am wondering what GeoLoco has been imbibing or eating. Swiss cheese or chocolate doesn’t have that effect on me but it tastes soooo good :)
    I wonder how much house insurance is when you rebuild on a lava Flow? For those who cannot see Volcano Live on the BBC a guy’s house was buried by a Hawaiian lava flow. He came back and rebuilt only to have the same thing happen and now he is again rebuilding on another plot. Evidently he says the cost of land there is quite cheap . :D
    The one thing I do notice is that all the Volcano experts no matter where in the world they are, are enthusiastic to the point of being almost maniacal when talking about Volcanoes. They have the same brightness of eyes and deep excitement that I have when searching google for clues to the “Guess the lava” competitions or seeing red spots in certain places in Iceland…….We are all a little mad on here I think

    • I’d live there to have an ocean front house on an island paradise. And no ever-growing tropical garden to keep tidy! :-)

    • Hey Diana good evening, I think when you do something you love the excitement and joy are overwhelming. I remember taking my son on a trip to see the huge leatherback turtles that were landing on the beach in Trinidad to lay their eggs. It was truly amazing, and it wasn’t just the turtles. We waited patiently on the beach as the sun set and darkness enveloped, slowly and surely the behemoth turtles lumbered up the beach to dig their nests. There were biologists present to measure the creatures and note the nest sites, with each arrival the excitement grew, and their joy was something I find hard to put into words. But the best was when a rare turtle was discovered, (sorry I cannot remember the name, it was much smaller and had a spiky shell) I will never forget the experience. It was not just the turtles, they were awesome, it was the pure joy of the people.

  14. How can Thrihnukagigur still stand if it doesn’t have any magma supply to hold it up?

    • Its soild rock mountain with just a small a hole in the middle, the lava tube is mosly vertical cave in top and middle but bending at bottom, and has much wider circumferance near the bottom.

  15. BBGN all! A bunch of people have been running around my neck of the woods with a fire hazard so I have to leave for work early tomorrow to avoid the traffic jams. (Translation: the Olympic Torch is in south Wiltshire today and tomorrow). :-) Shleep well!

    • And in my town on Monday. It goes right past my daughters window and no, I shant bother to go look. More interesting things to do. ;) Besides watching all that running makes me break into a hot flush. LOL

    • Hey Talla, just amazes me..that poor olympic torch is doomed with all the rainfall in UK….how do they keep it going without it becomming a damp squib? or am I wrong and UK is now enjoying a real sunny summer?

      • No Debbie, it is STILL raining! Worst summer I remember but then I have a poor memory lately. And it isn’t even warm rain.

        • OMG still raining….what about the hosepipe ban, has that been lifted then, or don´t they need to becuase the rain is watering all the gardens anyway. Do you know what the forecast is for the Olympic Games? Maybe we should ask “Floodwarn” for a prediction – haven´t seen her commenting here for a while though! Hope she insn´t offended, becuase the last time a referred to her I called her Floodworm by mistake. If you see this post Floodwarn, please accept my apologies. :)

          • Oh I never noticed the (Floodworm). I nearly called Floodwarn Floodman though.(smiley face)

          • Haha, i loved the floodworm mistake. i am sure he wont be offended though, even by you getting his sex wrong just as I did with Sissel when I first came on here. Took me ages after to start trying to picture her as a lady not a man,

  16. Not sure what all the hubbub is about… so I’ll stick my two cents in where it doesn’t belong.

    Charlie Hodge says:
    July 11, 2012 at 20:32

    “Surely Ockham’s Razor says that’s the most logical explanation???”

    Ockham’s Razor, for those who are not familiar with the term, is generally that when all things are considered, usually the simplest answer is the correct answer.

    So… in South Florida, a guy jacked up on cocaine has an internal heat stroke and eats a homeless guy’s face. Though the police claim it was cocaine related, the Hostipal says if was “bath salts.”

    Okay… a news oddity that sounds like the start of a bad Zombie movie.

    Elsewhere, a similarly chemically enhanced attack has some guy trying to eat a baby’s arm.

    Okay, what are the odds of that? Still… not, really abnormal… but .. odd. Loons (general term, not full blown idiots) come up with the idea that the officials are hiding an underlying zombie threat with stories about the drugs.

    Other zombie like attacks occur… similar story, drug related. In the next county over, in Milton, a similar “drug related” attack occurs, but like a true redneck, rather than trying to eat someones face off, they try to eat the hood of a police cruiser.

    It’s at about this point in the chain of events, that Ockham seems to be pointing more towards it being a bona-fide zombie situation, rather than some convoluted bad drug interaction that happens to have a common attack theme.

    No… I don’t believe in Zombies…. but I do keep ammo around.

    • Oh… and since I am somewhat of an ass….

      I don’t generally buy into the “Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence” line of thinking.

      (not really applicable here)

      I tend to follow the “Screw me once shame on you, screw me twice, shame on me” philosophy. I can see a group/organization/person messing up from incompetence once… maybe twice, but if it turns into a running issue, then I have to question their desire to get it right… or if that is even what their intention was to begin with.

      With IGN and Pevloca… they seem to have corrected whatever issue that they had the first time around.

    • But these jerks didn´t come back from the dead, did they? So that should kill the zombie hypothesis ;-)

      • That depends… under the classic zombie scenario, the person that becomes the zombie has a “spell” placed upon them by a shaman of sorts. Generally this is from the administration (poisoning) of the victim with a drug the feigns death. Being dead, the victim is buried. As the drug wears off the victim finds themselves entombed in a grave. If the religious belief of the victim is strong, they can fall under the sway of who (the shaman) that removes them from the grave.

        All the rest of the common zombie lore is a movie construct.

        Look for lore around Santería for more info… that’s where the meme originally comes from. It’s a mixture of Catholicism and Caribbean / African religions. The tale could be the result of a cultural dichotomy, where one culture weaves tales about the beliefs of another one, or it could be the actual. But in general, that’s where the original zombie idea came from.

        • Active ingredient is tetrodotoxin from puffer fish liver. Blocks sodium channels, a bit like local anaesthetic. Its not feigning death. Overdose is death.
          Fugu – numbing of mouth, same stuff.

      • And the … interesting part about this. Some of the originally reported “psuedozombie” attacks were of Haitian or Caribbean island origin.

        Not saying that’s what it is, but it’s the sort of thing that makes you go “eh?”

    • Lurking, not disagreeing with you at all, but in many cases, there is as little difference between a zombie and certain segments of the human population, irrespective if they are on nothing, bath salts or cocaine, as makes no difference. Remember this though – in the eyes of God and in the polling booth, there are as much worth and as valuable as you or I.

      (Did I just reveal myself as an intelligent communist? Now that’s one stonking oxymoron! :mrgreen: )

  17. Was into data mining mood with the El Hierro boletin data again and found out what nice things to do with the filter tool in Excel. So here is the result of depicting all 2011/early 2012 (black) and late 2012 earthquakes (orange) with some extras.

    Because there is a prevalence for large earthquakes to be deeper, I highlighted the larger than 2.8 mblg ones. See that sharp border in the E-W view.

    Wasn´t the azimuth the poor mans focal mechanism? The strong earthquakes with Az between 158 and 168° are highlighted in green.

    Some patterns show up to my monkey brain, mainly a tilt of the upper border of strong earthquakes and a tendency for the deeper ones to fall in that particular azimuth category. The current swarm started with an 3.1 mblg at the red triangle right where the last strong earthquakes in Nov 2011 were.

    Topographic view: http://i48.tinypic.com/30bmykk.jpg
    East-West: http://i49.tinypic.com/2rrnvbq.jpg
    North-South: http://i46.tinypic.com/2crqzbl.jpg

    Any ideas what these patterns could mean?

    • Yah.. poor man’s focal mechanism. Unsupported by any research or doctrine. Just the wild idea that the worst resolution would be along the line of the fault plane.

    • “Some patterns show up to my monkey brain… “

      Interesting choice of terms. Cliff High of Half Past Human uses that term quite a bit. It’s not unique, but it’s not really common.

      As for the alignment, I have the belief that the direction has a lot to do with the method in which the crust was formed…. back when this area was along the MAR. As the magma accreted, it would have formed in parallel layers mostly aligned with the axis of the MAR. I think what the azimuths are showing us are the weak parts… the boundaries between the individual accretion episodes, are the weak part and fracture along that preferential axis.

      But… I ain’t no Geologist.

      • Monkey Brain, was used a lot by Carl Sagan, one of the greatest scientists, thinkers, and educators of all time.

    • The tilt of that “large earthquake border” is roughly 80°, so an azimuth of about 170° is perpendicular to that plane pointing down. Doesn´t that match the 2011 trend of earthquakes descending? Well, I am nothing but an amateur, but it does look suggestive to me.

    • Chryphia, yes indeed, patterns!
      A conical pattern ( black events) is even more obvious if the scales are equalised. The depth of these plots is truncated with respect to the EW and NS.
      There was an aseismic zone at 17-22km between the lower bound of the first swarm ( upper black ) and top of the second swarm ( lower black) that has been filled in with the present eqs. which then propagated westwards as a tongue at similar depth.
      Meaning? Perhaps propagating failures? – suggestive of release of emplaced strains.

      Can I ask – when did the 2.8s and bigger happen- can you colour code them into first, second, and 2012 swarms?
      Peter

  18. Now back to the topic of the post.

    I was under the impression that the Icelandic hotspot was most likely of shallow origin… or at least of a more shallow origin than the classic Hawaiian style hotspot. This was due to the Helium ratios not being right… and that the Icelandic hotspot does not maintain a relatively fixed distance from the other hotspots… which seem to sit in stasis with each other.

    To me, an appropriate answer would be that Iceland’s hotspot originated in mid mantle from something…. such as a disintegrating crust fragment.

    I could be wrong…but am interested in hearing some more on that idea.

    • I always jump when I read that.
      REM count is way off the chart. Of all the hotspot magmas it has the highest count of it on the planet. And that comes from very deep down. I think that there is another reason for the low He3 count.
      One I do think is vallid is that most measurments are not of the Hotspot magma.
      Most of the volcanoes in Iceland is ejecting non hotspot to mixed magmas, only Bardarbunga/Grimsvötn/Kverkfjöll are erupting hotspot magmas.
      Sometimes I think that the more distant volcanoes does not eject deep hotspot magma at all, instead I think that magma is things sucked up by the back draft from the hotspot column as iit rushes past.
      The REM count drops fast as you go away from the hotspot.
      Askja has a pretty good REM count, but allready Krafla has a much lower count, and Theistarerykjarbunga has almost no REM that is detectable.

      Also, if one take a look at the map above, it is quite clear that the hotspot has deep origin, interestingly enough there is also a “wake” of sorts.

      • “The REM count drops fast as you go away from the hotspot.”

        Which is another way of saying that energy levels drop as precipitously. Hence, the Icelandic hotspot is very narrow and focused. It is also proof of the deep origin and considering the distance it has had to travel, it is another indication of how powerful/superlatively energetic the deep process driving it is.

        If you’ll alow a simile: The source of the Icelandic hotspot, the layer errouneously thought of as it’s origin and the MOHO – crust – surface expressions hold the same relationship to each other as the deep source of basaltic magma, the magma chamber cooking evolved magmas and the volcanic mountain spewing it forth.

      • Well… that adds a bit of true oddity.

        How to get low He and high Rare Earths. I like the inflow suction idea, and since I don’t know the specific locations where the magma was tested for He, it could be that they just missed the true core flow from the deep.

      • My reasoning goes like this:

        Is it a stable process with a continuous, steady output? No, not b-y likely at all!

        What time scale do we invoke between periods of activity? Years? Thousands of Years? Millions of years? Half-life related? As they are around for hundreds of millions of years, we’re most likely in the 10^5 — 10^^6 range (cf. the time given for the Siberian Traps outburst, some 2-3 million years or so)

        When active, it produces all sorts of fission products including Helium. At that depth, the combination of temperature and pressure will result in metallic to plasmatic helium and since it’s lighter and carries a larger “energy gradient”, it will preceed everything else and act as a ram.

        Thus, the amount of helium topside will vary from great amounts initially to lesser amounts at later stages of an active phase. See Cheb/Karlovy Var – all you get now is helium. Iceland, been going on for a long time, hence helium content ought to be and is lower.

        Anyway, that approximates my line of reasoning. ;)

  19. Hi Diana…
    The last time I saw you I remember you are going to London with your mother… And I didnt know nothing more from you… hahaha
    I thought you were lost at London… hahaha
    Thank you very much all the mates and ladies for the wellcoming…
    Carl has here the best people at and throught the world.
    I´m very glad to see you all!

    • HHola! Carlos… I am the Mother going to London to see my Son you have reminded me, I MUST look for a cheap advanced ticket ready for my next visit. As they didn’t call me to be team GB’s Tai Chi champion I shall calmly wait with my yin and yang in harmony until the Olympic furore has died down along with the prices.
      I try to be patriotic at these times but commercial, moral and political happenings tends to tarnish the true spirit of the Games.

  20. Good morning folks,
    Heaven that’s a busy place. Catching up is nearly as impossible as following everything. But always worth reading. And we seem to develop a good way to deal with critical stuff – intense discussion, dragons cutting what’s overflowing. Nice.
    You know, we have a problem with El Hierro: as said so many times, we love it, but it’s a wet fart on the global scale. So don’t wonder if documentary on this stuff aiming at considerations on an international scale is not too precise about Bob and Elvis… :-)
    My today’s morning thoughts go to Carlos and his mates: wish you the best dealing with the crisis.

    • Good Morning GeoLoco. Heaven is busy?Well! I guess it is with all those do gooding souls there. I remember clearly the large chart on my infant classroom wall. It was a stairway and every time you did something good your cardboard cut-out angel moved one step up towards a large white cloud representing heaven. My angel never seemed to make it past step one and Jennifer’s angel was nearly there already. Jennifer had told me I wouldn’t go to heaven as I was not of her brand of Christianity. Even at four+ years she had perfected the art of bullying and I remember telling my grandmother I didn’t want to go to heaven as Jennifer, and Mother St Brendan (A ferocious Nun who whacked our fingers with a metal ruler if we got our X’s tables wrong ) would be there.
      So here I am 60 years on and still on step one. :D
      Every time I see unrest in the world I see history in the making and somehow Government’s these days never seem to learn from historical facts!

      • I have this “history-parallels” thing too. My bro’s an archeologist. We often philosophize and compare present with past (natural science wise and histrory / society wise). We can’t help ourself seeing parallels to all big culture’s as they were in phases of decline. The new thing is really the global scale at which things are linked. We’re not all at the same “stage” in our societal evolution, and this all interfers in a very weird way. But looking at our occidental context “alone”, we really get lost in the “luxury” problems and materialism has passed it’s zenith to now start bringing us to fall. We seem lost in the consequences of all our efforts to improve our situation (we meanins the last some generations). Whatever…
        If you go to hell this would make me happy – I’m looking forward to meeting you there, and sure we’ll have a better time together than we would with Mother St Brendan, Jenny and some of my bullies. And there will always be a cosey fire for a BBQ… Well, I as a dissident catholic might not be an ideal discussion partner in religious matters. I came to the conclusion that beeing a “sheep” (follower, obeying one) in whatever religious system is a very poor thing. If there’s an interstellar power watching and having created us, it didn’t give us brains for nothing. And I for sure don’t need any self-declared leader to tell me what and how to believe and practice whatever.
        Am I writing all that just because I’m sooooo tired of the administrative stuff I absolutely have to do? Yes. Will that be a good excuse when I meet my superiority in 1.5 hours? No. Am I bored with professional life? Yes. But am I so happy I have a job to feed my family? Oooooooh yes! So will I now stop and do what I’m supposed too? Pffffffffyes.
        Have a nice morning.

    • Good evening hattie… here in the UK I have a strange , bright thing in the blue sky. This rare occurrence has made me very active this morning!

        • Well reading his post above it might not be a bad thing if it is. I think the world needs change….. but I will not be influenced much by the takeover of the Lizards… it is far too cold and sunless in England for them to become PROACTIVE!!!!! Rofl :D

          • OH how true Diana, they will just lay there listlessly (like all true politicians :) ) and then we just walk up to them, take them to the nearest volcano and drop them in, where they will no doubt turn into kind dragons like Spica.

            O dear, not enough coffee for me yet either, I am losing the plot.

          • Now that’s a good point. Never thought about it. We’ll be save from these green basterds on our rainy-cold countries. Ha! Just come down you boneheads, my fridge will be full of icecubes to throw at you. Land in my backyard and you’ll get what you diserve.
            Now there’s only the pole-shift and solar flares left to be worried of… Oh, and CO2-climate change etc. of course… ;-)

  21. at about 5.31 an EQ went of the scale, waiting for depth etc.it would have been felt all over very similar to the ones before like the 3.8 but much higher 4.5 or thereabouts

    • Still nothing up on the charts yet, and I have to go to bed now it’s getting near midnight here. BBGN all have a good night or day. I hope all the people in England enjoy the sunny day, you deserve it after all that rain. Night night.

    • And three hours later…. cloudy again and yet MORE heavy rain forecast. UGH I must get up earlier. :( Maybe by next month I will get this sleep disorder sorted and for the first time since I was a kid, be able to get up bright and early. Nah, can’t see that happening.
      And minilurker, you are about to get rained on, see the radar below.
      http://www.raintoday.co.uk/

  22. 2012-07-12 05:30:27.31hr 20min ago 27.67 N 18.13 W 24 3.0 CANARY ISLANDS, SPAIN REGION
    Edited by Spica

      • I had to hold back sooo hard not to answer exactly that. Didn’t want to be the monomaniac that comes with that 10 times a day (5 is enough).
        Thank you! That just made me smile like an idiot – feel great. :-)

          • “Feel great” is perfectly acceptable as is “feels great”:

            (I) feel great.
            (It made me) feel great.
            (It) feels great

        • Ahhhhhh! I have done a good thing already today. This is a worry as my angel has gone one step nearer heaven. …………Now where did I hide that illicit chocolate ???

      • Right, all this talk of Lizards reminds me of how evil they really are … Mr Lizard

    • I can’t see one Renato. Maybe it was the early morning sun reflecting on dewy grass

  23. I have been studying the GPS data here. I have compared the staions on El Hierro with those on Tenerife and La Palma.
    Have a look at El Hierro Faro. I am presuming this staion is near the lighthouse on the western end of the island.
    This area is apparently going up and down wildly, like a Yoyo. Can anyone please interpret this wide range of scattered readings please?
    http://www.seis.nagoya-u.ac.jp/sagiya/Sagiyas_Page/Canary.html
    http://www.seis.nagoya-u.ac.jp/sagiya/canary_gps/FARO.pdf

    • I think I remember Carl or someone suggesting it was instrument error and that GPS readings should be read as trend lines rather than as individual (daily) readings.

      I also remember an idea bandied about during Eyjafjöküll that the arrival of the pulse of magma hitting the bottom of the crust could possibly lead to oscillation in the crust from the impact. I think this was just a wild hypothesis at the time. I don’t know how much credence it has.

      • It was a follow-up or consequence of Peter Cobbold digging up the paper by Foulger about “magma boluses”, just us throwing ideas around (the after-dinner stage of cigar and port where such fantasies can be safely aired)

        • So Hierro has had three boluses so far? – one for each swarm.
          For Hierro I’m off diapirs. I am just waiting for a passing structural engineer to say the eq patterns look like propagating fatigue failure or somesuch. Then we can pass the port!!

          • No structural engineer would ever start talking unless we un-cork the port first.
            I am going to meet a structural engineer specialized in fire hazards in a little while, I while show him the pattern. I will return with his explanation of it being an old outhouse burning… :mrgreen:

    • In my opinion last year was a magma infiltration (a bump) that got its way pretty quickly up, Bob’s shout, since then, once Bob decides to close up, the magma start to erode some (sediments?) weak layers and still accumulate.
      I suppose that the layer erosion is the most Hierroean pattern we witness. The ancient movements like this one are the basement of oldest flank collapses. That’s why nowadays it attack the lighthouse area (the biggest remains of the initial cone).
      So, the whole island start to inflate just because is no way out to spit up.
      I suppose also that the rift zone between lighthouse and the center of the island is the most dangerous one for future Elvises.

      • Yeah, the geometry is a bit intriguiing. We’ve got 4 km of island sitting on the crust yet the crust must be downsagging a bit from all that weight, let’s say between 500m and 1 km (ball park figure). At the same time these magma injections are like huge injections of botox into the crust so it must be much thicker under the island than elsewhere in the vicinity. This must explain the relative depth of the seismic activity. I bet the surrounding crust where there are no seamounts is much thinner.

        But if that is the case, why isn’t the new melt which rises from deep in the mantle flowing up around the thickened crust to thinner places around the island? Or is there some kind of funnel structure under the island that draws all the new magma to one point at the base of a deep conduit?

          • Thanks Peter! Strangely I had, though I had seen references to it here at various times. Thanks! Confirms precisely what I was talking about. All you have to do is imagine the geometry of the crustal thickness around the island and bingo, you have an upside down Kugelhopf.

          • Hi Bruce
            But there’s no sign in that paper of the horizontal layering needed to restrict the swarms (aka magma) to rather well-defined depths. Hierro’s no layer cake.
            Peter

          • Papers can sometimes say things, but reality has a tendency to change things a lot.
            In this case the old maps are based on data that reality seems to have proven wrong. Also you are misinterpreting them. What the paper showed is the old remnants of volcano infrastructure.

    • Hello Diana!
      I am going to answer it, but in the follow up post to this one… Naughty me… :)

  24. Good morning to all too.
    Whoever is really bored and wants to watch a dragon working could check the menu under Gems from time t otime. Something is changing there.But it will take days if not weeks till this project is finished. Better descriptions of the images will also follow.Still….input from the readers is welcome. Yes VC is getting its very own gallery.

  25. earthquake2012-07-12 09:39:22.0
    05min ago 36.39 N 9.81 W 60 ML 4.3 WEST OF GIBRALTAR

  26. @Carl, you are not going to like this (letter published in a recent issue of mineral mag).

    An article by A. C. Kerr and coworkers published in 2010 in Mineralogical Magazine (74, 1027–1036), reviewed an event that was interpreted as the eruption of a basaltic flow on 27th January 2010, at Tor Zawar, Ziarat, Pakistan. The regional and local geology, volcanological aspects, petrography and major-element and trace-element analyses of two samples were presented. On the basis of these data it was proposed that this was a magmatic event and that the lava was derived from the mantle. On the basis of our extensive field work in the this area, and observations at the site of another similar incident that happened almost a year later (in January 2011) ~300 m north of the first locality, we wish to clarify the geological context and propose an alternative origin.

    Our field observations suggest that both events were the result of localized surface melting at the base of metal electricity pylons, and their associated steel cable supports. The metal pylons and cable supports provided a path to earth for lightning discharges into the volcanic conglomerate of the Late Cretaceous Bibai Formation. We propose that this transmitted sufficient energy to melt the outcrop. We disagree with the proposal that the ‘lava flows’ at Tor Zawar were magmatic events and that the rocks formed are derived from the mantle. Alternatively, we propose that these ‘lavas’ were produced in a manner similar to fulgurites.

    • No, you are totally wrong!

      I bloody loved it!!!
      If you release electrical discharge into highly silicate material with metalic components in it you get melt, to be specific piezo electric shock wave inductive melt.
      Not the same as I proposed as an origin, but still nice.
      So, to my knowledge this would be the first manmade volcano. Human progress :mrgreen:

        • Same thing that always make magma rise upwards, heat buoyancy and pressure.

      • Sounds is if the systems design for lightning protection was missing or bypassed.  Lightning arrestors , insulators and grounding systems normally prevent the concentration of an electric discharge sufficient to melt earth.  But twice in the same place? And jumping down the mast and guy cables. And they are still there?

  27. Well if this is true…. I WANT ONE IN MY GARDEN!

    Imagine, you have some friends round for a BBQ, afterward (instead of using a boring, wood burning fire) just say, “shall i switch the volcano on?”

    • Silvio Berlusconi has one in his garden…

      And I think it would do wonders to your electrical bill really :mrgreen:

      • Yes, it would probably be cheaper to fly around the world to see a real one, But i could be the ultimate (geology interested) millionare’s toy.

        You know, you have your mansion, your Ferrari and now, your own volcano!

        • There was a volcanic cone for sale for US$750,000 near Newberry (from memory, not reliable) a few weeks ago.

          Dunno if it is still on the market.

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